For this bonus episode of the podcast, following up on our episode on African-American Tobacco Use and Industry Targeting,” two Counter Tools staff members, Jackie Boards and Rose DeLeon-Foote, had the opportunity to interview Dr. Phillip Gardiner, Co-Chair of the African-American Tobacco Control Leadership Council, while he was in the Triangle, NC for a number of speaking engagements around menthol and tobacco as a social justice issue. Listen below, on SoundCloud, or on iTunes. You can also read a transcript of the interview here.